Terry, Such cool pictures. Is Bill active in the group? I don't remember seeing any of his posts. 60 foot with 125KVA, that's close to JF's 50 foot prediction. Is the 14MV real do you think? We'll, I got the 12K 30ma going and started to developing racing arcs. I only know of two causes for these (too much coupling or out of tune). Since k is .128, I suspect tuning. I at the max on the primary so I can't find the peak. I've added another 25 feet of tubing. Splice turned out better than I expected. I also added two more coats of polyurythene so hopefully this will fix it. During the racing arcs, sparks from the toroid were cool. Free space streamers didn't get significantly longer, just more intense and numerout. I'm thinking I'm starting to "saturate" the 3x11 toroid so after I get it tuned I will make a larger toroid. Any thoughts you have will be welcomed. We have an astronomy meeting this Thurs with dinner before hand (at Youngs, probably at 5:30). If you are interested (meeting, dinner, or both) let me know. I still need to find what the presentation subject is. Best regards, Gerry > Hi Gerry, > > www.ttr.com > > Look up the model 13 that does 60 foot arcs!! > > Cheers, > > Terry